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Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/02/2010 :  09:53:42  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I went to take my rally pac off to repair the clock and foung that the yoke that attaches to the steering column is held on by some sort of special screw with a head that a phillips or slotted driver will not fit. What type of driver do I need for this??
Jack
RalphJr
KRAZY!

GA, USA
1030 Posts
Posted - 03/02/2010 :  13:08:40  Show Profile  Send RalphJr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
These are probably the tamper-proof screws many places sell to protect against theft of the Rally-Pac.

I don't know exactly what they are, but they might be a Torx head - 6 pointed star - with or without a center pin - the OEMs use these a lot on new cars and tools are easy to find at any parts store.

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Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/02/2010 :  13:39:05  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
RalphJr, thanks for the reply. They are definately not torx head screws as I have torx drivers and they do not work.
Jack
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cobraboy
RidiKulous


United Kingdom

375 Posts
Posted - 03/02/2010 :  14:29:49  Show Profile  Send cobraboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Jack
I have the anti theft screws on my car, they are a hex socket with a dimple in the centre so you cannot use a normal hex key, you have to have a hex key with a hollow centre.
If yours look like this you may have to buy a complete set from Scott Drake to get the key to undo yours.
Try Phil Severance for your clock repair, he repaired my tach and is a nice bloke.
psev@cableone.net
www.phidonrestorations.com

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Mu5tanggt
FanatiKal

TX, USA
119 Posts
Posted - 03/02/2010 :  18:37:46  Show Profile  Send Mu5tanggt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just used a pair of needle nose vise grips, came right off. Worked fine to tighten back up too. Used a rag to keep the jaws from marking the screws. Mine look like a phillips head but with three slots instead of 4, they are very thick which made them easy to grab with the vise grips. Go to Top of Page
Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/03/2010 :  11:14:37  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys! Mine are like pan head screws with 3 offset slots going from the outside of the screw head towards the center but not all the way to the center so the center section is solid. If the outside slots were connected (and they are not) it would form an equal leg "Y". It's almost like it would be some sort of 3 blade spanner or collet wrench but smaller. I will try the locking pliers as I do not believe I will find the correct tool.
Jack
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mcfly
Kommitted

NY, USA
84 Posts
Posted - 03/03/2010 :  12:49:55  Show Profile  Send mcfly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is this what you are talking about

here is a link for a screwdriver
http://www.amazon.com/Triwing-Trigram-Screwdriver-Magnetic-Tip/dp/988215851X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1267638511&sr=8-2

mike

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Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/03/2010 :  14:04:33  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
mcfly, thanks for the reply but the screw slots on my screws do not meet or connect in the center of the screw and the slots start at the outside of the screw. The center of the svrew is solid since the slots do not meet. I will try the link you provided to see if they have something like mine.
Jack
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c6zzkgt
KRAZY!

CA, USA
2843 Posts
Posted - 03/03/2010 :  14:11:45  Show Profile  Send c6zzkgt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What you are dealing with is called an Eaton three wing tamper proof screw. Snap on used to make the socket for them as a TTW12 but they no longer have them. The Rally Pac screws are flatter than these but the tool does fit them properly. A friend of mine gave me one a number of years ago but I cannot find it right now. Here is a discussion on this socket:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0Li3cNVdx94/tech/kb399.html

-Fred- Go to Top of Page

Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/03/2010 :  14:51:25  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fred, your knowledge of these cars second to none! You are ablolutely right in saying this is what I have except with a flat head rather than tapered as shown in your link. I can easily see how the tool would work on the the screws. I have a friend with a pretty good collection of snap on tools and see if he has something like this.
Were these screws commonly used on the rally pac yokes?
Jack
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c6zzkgt
KRAZY!

CA, USA
2843 Posts
Posted - 03/03/2010 :  15:32:04  Show Profile  Send c6zzkgt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jack, Yes these were the common screws for the Rally Pac back in the day.

-Fred- Go to Top of Page

cobraboy
RidiKulous


United Kingdom

375 Posts
Posted - 03/04/2010 :  02:09:26  Show Profile  Send cobraboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fred
Were the tamper screws you mentioned fitted as standard on the line, if not what was ?
Thanks
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c6zzkgt
KRAZY!

CA, USA
2843 Posts
Posted - 03/04/2010 :  21:42:39  Show Profile  Send c6zzkgt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have an NOS in the Ford box high profile Hipo Rally Pac and it has the tamper resistant screws that I normally see on these.

-Fred-
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cobraboy
RidiKulous


United Kingdom

375 Posts
Posted - 03/05/2010 :  14:19:39  Show Profile  Send cobraboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/19/2010 :  11:21:33  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I finally got the odd screws out (a machinist friend made me a driver for them) and found numbers stamped on the back of the clock housing "165" (see picture). Is that a unit number or date?

Jack
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289kford
RidiKulous

OH, USA
258 Posts
Posted - 03/19/2010 :  11:55:49  Show Profile  Send 289kford a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:

I went to take my rally pac off to repair the clock........Jack

When I took mine out to repair it, I cleaned it out with some CRC electronics cleaner, used a fingernail file to clean up the contacts, then a light lube on the movement, been going for 3 years now.

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Jack65K
FanatiKal

MO, USA
117 Posts
Posted - 03/19/2010 :  16:04:11  Show Profile  Send Jack65K a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, I'll try that.
Jack
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