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iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/16/2010 :  15:43:33  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the 66 is practically free
and i plan to look at each part
and use only if identical.
the floor is not as bad as i thot,
so will try and save as much of the original
metal as possible.

i'm trying to figure out what happened to this car.
i think it was picked up by a fork lift,
with the forks perpendicular to the front and back of car,
and the rear ends of the front rails
got pushed up thru the rotten floor!
whoo!

the car is totally striped now
except for the steering gear box
and steering linkage;
can't find my pitman arm puller?

plan to build a metal frame under car
to square it up,
weld supporting braces in,
put it all on a rotisserie,
blast it,
and then start replacing metal.

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iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/18/2010 :  12:44:50  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
one side has HiPo motor mount
wonder what happened to the other one?
iowa

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bigal
Kommitted

FL, USA
53 Posts		 Posted - 05/19/2010 :  06:35:01  Show Profile  Send bigal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Least you got the frame mounts by the pair Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/20/2010 :  07:31:26  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i'm ready to build the frame jig
to line up the flooring etc.
is there a good thread on how to do this?
thanks
iowa Go to Top of Page
lscman
Kommitted

KY, USA
61 Posts		 Posted - 05/20/2010 :  12:21:20  Show Profile  Send lscman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe I have the passenger side Hipo mount if you want to e-mail me? Go to Top of Page
rickmustang
Kommitted

TX, USA
72 Posts		 Posted - 05/20/2010 :  17:22:08  Show Profile  Send rickmustang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a restored set to sell as well. Rick Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/20/2010 :  20:38:11  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
would this rim be correct for
my K car?
iowa

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caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 05/21/2010 :  21:10:47  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
January '67 Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/25/2010 :  16:13:33  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i took the driveshaft out of the automatic coupe
and it was the 50+ inch one.

does someone have the shorter one that i could trade
for, to use it in my K car?

thanks
iowa

Edited by - iowa on 05/25/2010 16:14:12 Go to Top of Page
caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 05/25/2010 :  18:27:18  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
Jack Brooks can make you up a correct drive shaft:

www.deadnutson.com
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iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/25/2010 :  21:58:44  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks for the link!
i also would like a link to
info or drawings that show
how to build the sub-frame jig
to keep the car aligned when
replacing rails etc.
thanks
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iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 05/31/2010 :  22:13:26  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
how about this 'K' code tranny?
(if i'm not supposed to use ebay on this forum
let me know)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-TOPLOADER-65-FORD-MUSTANG-/360265857454?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e184b9ae

thanks
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Builder11
Kommitted

NE, USA
52 Posts		 Posted - 05/31/2010 :  22:39:48  Show Profile  Send Builder11 a Private Message  Visit Builder11's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Iowa,
I think 750.00 is a steel with the shifter included, if you can get it for that.

C

Edited by - Builder11 on 05/31/2010 22:40:23 Go to Top of Page
oscart
Kommitted

ON, Canada
88 Posts		 Posted - 06/01/2010 :  14:27:23  Show Profile  Send oscart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks like someone told him it was priced too low. Re-listed at $950.00 Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/01/2010 :  17:18:41  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
it's gone now.
suppose s.o. here got it for a steal
and will resell it?
iowa Go to Top of Page
65Rangoon
RidiKulous

TX, USA
477 Posts		 Posted - 06/01/2010 :  17:44:58  Show Profile  Send 65Rangoon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I recognize the VIN on this tranny. It is the one bought by a vendor for just $65.00 (the purchasers claim not mine) from another vendor at the mid Apr 2010 swap meet at New Braunfels TX. I posted the details on the forum after getting back home from the meet. Oddly, even though he was aware it was a Hipo piece based on the tag, he didn't know about the factory VIN stamping until I mentioned it to him. We rolled it over, and there it was.

I imagine that little detail probably added 300.00 to his asking price.

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Charlie Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/02/2010 :  08:41:17  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i see it's back on for $950 starting!!
iowa Go to Top of Page
oscart
Kommitted

ON, Canada
88 Posts		 Posted - 06/02/2010 :  09:52:45  Show Profile  Send oscart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, that is what I said in my last post. I bid on it earlier but will watch it now. I will see how I enjoy my C4 and if I want to shift, might step up to a T-5. Will have car ready this weekend with the 3.80 gears and hope that it doesn't drive me nuts. I am running a 4.30 on my '93 5.0 and with the T-5 it is great on the highway. Never fear the gear, but... Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/02/2010 :  19:01:33  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is there a good link that describes the various transmissions?
i am very ignorant about them.
all i know are the T-18 wwii jeep one's!![:)
iowa Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/05/2010 :  09:28:57  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is the shifting mechanism correct for the toploader?
iowa Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/05/2010 :  16:08:01  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sorry about that.
the above post made no sense,
but was referring to the 'K' toploader
on e bay.

also, my understanding, is that only the convertibles
had the little little 'tunnel';
the provision for the emergency brake cable
just ahead of the wheel house part of the floor pan.
yet my 'K' code car has these.
is it possible that they used the convert. floor
in my fastback?

thanks
iowa

Edited by - iowa on 06/05/2010 16:11:49 Go to Top of Page
caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 06/05/2010 :  18:43:01  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
Not sure what you mean by different parking brake configuration? In '67 the routing changed. For 65-66, the routing should have been consistent across all 3 body styles for what was being used at any point in production. Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/05/2010 :  21:48:01  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
C65
it's not the brake lines themselves i'm talking about
but the little tunnel in the rear floor pan
which they go thru on the way back to the hubs.
i thot that only the convertibles
had these 'humps' in the metal.
you can see a pic of them on pg 190
of the NPD catalog
iowa Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/07/2010 :  13:31:58  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
here is a pic of what i'm talking about.
the catalog says the convertables had
this tunnel only.

but...my K-code car has them!!

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caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 06/07/2010 :  15:33:10  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
Not unique to convertibles. The catalog appears to be wrong on that. Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  06:29:59  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
can s.o. explain which years n types of mustangs
had this 'tunnel' for the emergency brake?
or direct me to a thread which does?
thanks
iowa Go to Top of Page
caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  06:49:39  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
From what I have seen, appears it was used on all body styles in '65. I have seen some late '65 where the cables didn't go through the holes though. But, instead, were secured to the bottom of the floor pan, kind of like a '66 (but not the same.) Go to Top of Page
65 2plus2
Kommitted

TN, USA
86 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  07:22:27  Show Profile  Send 65 2plus2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is there a good link that describes the various transmissions?


Iowa, you might want to look at David Kee's website.

http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/ Go to Top of Page
round2K
KRAZY!

BC, Canada
1519 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  07:34:00  Show Profile  Send round2K a Private Message  Visit round2K's Homepage  Reply with Quote

The catalog is in error; that style of tunnel is found on all early cars that have the early style brake cables. The image below is of an early style cable from an unrestored 65 SJ FB. The notch in between the two pieces of rubber is where the cable bracket goes to fasten it to the frame. Inline Tube is the only company I am familiar with that sells reproductions of both the early and late-style cables. Unfortunately I don't know when the production change to place. The correct brackets and bolts are shown below courtesy of Charles' K blog spot.




Edited by - round2K on 06/11/2010 07:42:32 Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  07:48:32  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks guys
the '66 i've been tearing down
did not have these 'tunnels'
also did all '65's have the impression dip
just behind the shifter access 'square' hole?
thanks
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iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  10:14:50  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i see this calif car on ebay for 5500
pretty good shape if as advertised.
but i think it would be criminal
if i bought it and harvested parts from it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1965-FORD-MUSTANG-PROJECT-4-SPEED-DISC-RALLY-PAC-AC-/110544951320?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19bcfe1818#v4-37

i just don't feel comfortable doing this.
am still leaning toward a dynacorn floor
but using all the original sheet metal off
my floor that i can

iowa

Edited by - iowa on 06/11/2010 10:16:05 Go to Top of Page
c6zzkgt
KRAZY!

CA, USA
2832 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  10:57:18  Show Profile  Send c6zzkgt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All 65 and 66 original floor pans have the dip behind the square shifter opening. It is where the backup light switch wires come through on a manual transmission. The Dynacorn floor pans do not have this dip. 67 and up manual transmission backup light wires were routed underneath and up the firewall so they do not have the dip.

-Fred- Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  12:20:27  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the dyacorn floors for the convertibles do have this dip.
in fact, this convertible floor
is the closest one to my original flooring.
was there much difference between the
cp/FB and the convertible floors?
iowa Go to Top of Page
caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  13:42:11  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
quote:

the dyacorn floors for the convertibles do have this dip.
in fact, this convertible floor
is the closest one to my original flooring.
was there much difference between the
cp/FB and the convertible floors?
iowa

I've always been under the impression that the basic floor assembly was the same for all body styles. Convertibles just required additional reinforcement sections and unique seat riser. I have not had to delve into rusty projects that need floors very much, so there may be others willing to share their experiences on what they've found. Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/11/2010 :  15:44:36  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
caspian65
thanks to you and others that have put up with me
and my Q's during the past month or so.
i plan to research a little more before i
decide what to do.
i'll search for and compare diferent floors
for each year and type
and hopefully be able to make a list of
all the differences.
iowa Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/15/2010 :  19:37:12  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
does anyone know how much that K code tranny
went for that was on ebay recently?
thanks
iowa Go to Top of Page
289route66
FanatiKal

MO, USA
107 Posts		 Posted - 06/15/2010 :  21:22:27  Show Profile  Send 289route66 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
$1500 including the shifter. Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/16/2010 :  18:18:24  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmmm....
i should have bought it!
had a chance to 'buy it now' for $750
but didn't have a clue what they were worth
oh well....tomorrow's another day
dave Go to Top of Page
iowa
FanatiKal

IA, USA
161 Posts		 Posted - 06/17/2010 :  11:49:32  Show Profile  Send iowa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i removed the front suspension last night
and unfortunately did not preserve the
correct shim count for the upper arms.
is this a major problem on reassembly?
thanks
iowa

Edited by - iowa on 06/17/2010 11:50:11 Go to Top of Page
caspian65
Kontributor

NC, USA
2480 Posts		 Posted - 06/17/2010 :  12:30:15  Show Profile  Send caspian65 a Private Message  Send caspian65 an instant message  Reply with Quote
quote:

i removed the front suspension last night
and unfortunately did not preserve the
correct shim count for the upper arms.
is this a major problem on reassembly?
thanks
iowa

Edited by - iowa on 06/17/2010 11:50:11

If I remember right, the Osobrn chassis assembly manual gives a starting point based on body style. Don't think it will be a problem. Go to Top of Page
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