Strange VIN..?

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Strange VIN..?

Postby frenchdriver » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:00 pm

Hello,
I am a new...and french ! ;)
I just arrived in your ...Kompany! (France has just few K code and and
I have found a 65' K-code but the VIN on the (both) fender is in a special place...
In fact it is not at the logical place but closer to the windshield an almost under the wing...
and there is another number croosing the VIN...(apparently "2230")

Does someone know what does that mean?
Is this place correct anyway on a K code?

(Very sorry for my bad english......)
Thank you for your help!
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby C6ZZKGT » Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:12 pm

I just sent you an email requesting a picture for me to analyze. If you can figure out how to post the picture on this site, that will also work. I have seen hidden VINs stamped in the wrong position which is what this sounds like.

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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby jwc66k » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:35 pm

Welcome to the forum. Don't worry about your English, we usually can figure out what you're trying to say.
There are three stamped VIN's in the engine compartment, the visible one on the left side that has the fender cut out to see, and two hidden numbers, one on the right hand side and another on the left both hidden by the fender when it is in place. They are next to the hinges. Look on the under side and see if someone welded in the number area, a way of cheating. Pictures are sometimes difficult, the website limits the dots per inch to 800 by 600 or 8 by 6 inches, which should be about 20 by 15 cm, and 39 pixels per square cm. I don't know if that makes sense, I think in English units and sometimes my conversions to the metric system are not correct. If you don't mind, list the VIN but use "xxx" for the last three numbers.
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby frenchdriver » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:32 pm

For info, the VIN is: 5R08K190XXX (as recommanded by jwc66k...)

In fact, the VIN is not stamped on the right place because de metal has been replaced by a new one... (only the front part...)

Here are 2 pics:
As you see, it is stamped close to the hood hing...
and on the line of the fender bolts...
and what is this strange number ?? (2230)

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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby C6ZZKGT » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:13 am

I had a 66 Hipo GT convertible where the hidden VINs, such as this one, were all visible as the were improperly stamped from the factory. The other number is a date code for that particular section of sheet metal.

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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby frenchdriver » Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:23 am

Thank you
But did they appeared anyway if the fender is monuted??

And what is the way to recreate the Numbers with the little star on the right place?

I have inspected the body and all seems that's a GT version...
Is there a code registration about GT versions?
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby zray » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:03 am

How does blocking out part of the VIN help anything ?

I can understand the arguement for doing so as far as the Shelby's are concerned . But for the rest of the HiPo's, no, I don't get it. A comprehensive list of full VIN's are in the HiPo registry which anyone can get, as well as all over this website.
So what "security" is achieved by hiding part of the VIN in a post ?

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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby frenchdriver » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:49 am

I am OK with that.

I have hidden the last Three numbers of my VIN # as asked by jwc66k on this post...
I am a new member...so I try to respect what is asked.

Thanks.

If someone can tell me that I can get the total # or not...
Thank you.
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby frenchdriver » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:19 am

My Kar is maybe a GT model...
Lots of details are their...
Do you know if the data plate can give an answer??

And I have seen lots of things about HIPO engine identification
but what about the car?
Is their qomewhere a complete list of the specifiks parts needed??

I know I have lots of questions...
In France its hard to find good knowlegde about the K...(C/D/A/or Shelby's...but poor for the K !)

Thanks !
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby jwc66k » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:34 pm

frenchdriver wrote:My Kar is maybe a GT model...

It's not a GT based on the partial VIM you provided. Your car was built in San Jose around February 24 or 25, 1965, too early to be a GT.
The partial VIN is to give you a certain lever of security. Some don't care, I do, and I don't want you to have any problems with the VIN in France.
frenchdriver wrote:Do you know if the data plate can give an answer??

Only from the scheduled assembly date. You can get the car model, exterior paint, interior color, ordering region (DSO), axle ratio and transmission.
frenchdriver wrote:And I have seen lots of things about HIPO engine identification but what about the car?
Is their qomewhere a complete list of the specifiks parts needed?

There are several books and manuals that cover most of the car. The problem is finding them, even in the USA.
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby frenchdriver » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:25 am

Thanks !

So it is maybe because K code body is almost like a GT configuration?

Do you have a title of these books?
I want to be sure to get good parts for getting a real K !
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby C6ZZKGT » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:24 am

This book by Tony Gregory available through this site is a good start:

http://www.hipomustang.com/default2.asp?page=13

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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby FM HIPO GT 1966 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:11 pm

Where do you live in France?
I am from Lyon and, of course, even if not as knowledgeable as some members here, I could help for basic things or provide contact details of some very knowledgeable people in France. Some of these guys are from the Mustang Club of France (MCF) and they are happy to share when kindly asked.
Obviously, it appears the best knowledge on K cars is here for technical questions or doubts.
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Re: Strange VIN..?

Postby FM HIPO GT 1966 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:15 am

Any news?
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