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64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:55 pm
by chucks302
Just read sept 2017 mustang monthly article on the 64.5 K code convert ,just wondering if the fuel pump in the photo of the engine compartment was in place before or after the car was sent to bob perkins shop per the article, i dont know the build date of the car but i thought 64.5 K cars had the screw together fuel pumps vs the 3939s crimped pumps, if fred is looking he might have some input on this,

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:46 am
by C6ZZKGT
chucks302 wrote:Just read sept 2017 mustang monthly article on the 64.5 K code convert ,just wondering if the fuel pump in the photo of the engine compartment was in place before or after the car was sent to bob perkins shop per the article, i dont know the build date of the car but i thought 64.5 K cars had the screw together fuel pumps vs the 3939s crimped pumps, if fred is looking he might have some input on this,


The earliest crimp together date code 3939-S fuel pump that I have observed is August 6, 1964 which is actual 1965 production, although only by a few days. I have an August 6, 1964 San Jose Koupe and based on my last sentence I determined that I had to use a screw together type of pump even though I had the August 6, 1964 dated 3939=S pump in hand.

-Fred-

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:24 am
by chucks302
C6ZZKGT wrote:
chucks302 wrote:Just read sept 2017 mustang monthly article on the 64.5 K code convert ,just wondering if the fuel pump in the photo of the engine compartment was in place before or after the car was sent to bob perkins shop per the article, i dont know the build date of the car but i thought 64.5 K cars had the screw together fuel pumps vs the 3939s crimped pumps, if fred is looking he might have some input on this,


The earliest crimp together date code 3939-S fuel pump that I have observed is August 6, 1964 which is actual 1965 production, although only by a few days. I have an August 6, 1964 San Jose Koupe and based on my last sentence I determined that I had to use a screw together type of pump even though I had the August 6, 1964 dated 3939=S pump in hand.

-Fred-
Those were my thoughts also fred, the change from screw together pumps to crimp style could have happened when the running change from generator to alternator took place, Does MCA concourse gold rules see it that way as it did win that award .

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:12 pm
by C6ZZKGT
chucks302 wrote:
C6ZZKGT wrote:
chucks302 wrote:Just read sept 2017 mustang monthly article on the 64.5 K code convert ,just wondering if the fuel pump in the photo of the engine compartment was in place before or after the car was sent to bob perkins shop per the article, i dont know the build date of the car but i thought 64.5 K cars had the screw together fuel pumps vs the 3939s crimped pumps, if fred is looking he might have some input on this,


The earliest crimp together date code 3939-S fuel pump that I have observed is August 6, 1964 which is actual 1965 production, although only by a few days. I have an August 6, 1964 San Jose Koupe and based on my last sentence I determined that I had to use a screw together type of pump even though I had the August 6, 1964 dated 3939=S pump in hand.

-Fred-
Those were my thoughts also fred, the change from screw together pumps to crimp style could have happened when the running change from generator to alternator took place, Does MCA concourse gold rules see it that way as it did win that award .


Chuck,

I would sure love to see the date code on that crimped pump on that 64 1/2 Kar as my records do NOT indicate any crimped pumps prior to August 6, 1964 including standard 289 and also 390 pumps for other Ford vehicles.

-Fred-

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:52 pm
by 289kford
I have seen this car as the restoring owner lives in Boardman and his shop is in Canfield, both outside of Youngstown Ohio, not Columbus as the story reads. His mother, Kathy, has been featured in one or more magazines with her 64.5 Mustang she got new as a high school grad present.
http://wkbn.com/2014/04/18/boardman-fam ... lebration/
I can not tell you any specifics but I've seen the car over the 90's to early 00's. Usually at the old Boardman A&W Mustang night. (One year there was 6 K codes there.)
I thought at one time it was on ebay for more than 100k.
His shop also did the mysterious oldest mustang that was sold, maybe a pre-production car that got out.
http://www.towncrieronline.com/page/con ... 11714.html

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:46 pm
by chucks302
I also have been to the shop in canfield , met nate and his father nice people, i think nate had this K convert at the canfield swap meet a few years back on display , might be that bob perkins removed the crimped pump after the MM photo shoot to install a screw together pump,

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:12 am
by rocket
I have a 64.5 K convertible July 21, 64 Assembly date car with a G4 dated Carter Fuel pump casting number 3734-S. I don't know how to determine the day of the month as all I found was the G4 date code. am I missing a casting number that indicates the day of the month?

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:56 pm
by C6ZZKGT
rocket wrote:I have a 64.5 K convertible July 21, 64 Assembly date car with a G4 dated Carter Fuel pump casting number 3734-S. I don't know how to determine the day of the month as all I found was the G4 date code. am I missing a casting number that indicates the day of the month?


Robert, The screw together pumps only used the month and year and NOT the day. Most likely your pump is correct and possibly the original one.

-Fred-

Re: 64.5 k CODE IN MUSTANG MONTHLY

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:57 pm
by rocket
Mine does screw together. My 64.5 Convertible K car also has the 9 Axle code 4.11 and it matches the Original door data plate. After reading the article, and searching thru the 4th Edition stats, I now know that there are at least two 64.5 K Convertibles with 4.11s in them.

Thanks Fred your information is always appreciated.